The Climate According to Life w/ Rob Lewis

In this conversation, Rob Lewis of the The Climate According to Life and I discuss the climate crisis from a holistic and poetic perspective. We explore the role of poetry in understanding the modern machine and the need for a shift in language and perspective. Rob also examines the influence of capitalism on climate science and solutions, as well as the importance of taking the time to address the crisis.

The conversation highlights the complexity and unifying nature of the modern crisis and emphasizes the need to talk to Earth on her terms—not as a “the” but as a living being. Rob also discusses the importance of language in our perception of the environment (or nature?) and how it can shape our relationship with nature, explaining how the term 'environment' was created to distance ourselves from nature and how Indigenous people have a more holistic way of talking about the earth.

The conversation concludes with a poem by Lewis titled 'The Making,' which reflects on the joy of good work and the importance of staying connected to Earth.

Takeaways

• Poetry can provide a unique perspective on the climate crisis, allowing us to see the beauty and interconnectedness of the natural world, regardless of what George Monbiot thinks!

• The influence of capitalism on climate science and solutions can hinder holistic and sustainable approaches. Well, destroys holistic approaches is more true.

• Taking the time to understand and address the modern crisis is crucial, as rushing and prioritizing technological solutions may lead to unintended consequences, like even more technology, industry, and their machines eroding our soils and communities.

• Language plays a significant role in shaping our understanding of the climate crisis, and it is important to use language that respects and acknowledges Earth as a living being. Language plays a significant role in shaping our perception of the environment. The term 'environment' was created to distance ourselves from nature, while Indigenous people have a more holistic way of talking about the earth.

• Water is essential for life and plays a central role in our climate. The relationship between water and life is interconnected, with water creating the infrastructure for life and life creating the conditions for water.

• Plants have a crucial role in climate regulation through the process of transpiration. They release moisture to cool off and absorb heat from the atmosphere, helping to regulate temperature and remove heat from the environment.

• The complexity of life and Earth cannot be fully understood or captured in a single moment. It requires ongoing exploration and reflection to find meaning and appreciate its beauty.

Rob is a kind, thinking friend and it was a true blessing to share the space with him.